Two professionals in a focused one-on-one conversation

The goal isn't learning. It's measurable behavior change.

Your leaders already know they should be more direct. The gap isn't knowledge — it's execution. This program is built to change what they actually do by building new "muscle memory" — and then to prove the results: that accountability increased, that talent development accelerated, and that relationships were preserved or even improved, despite the difficult subjects discussed.

The conversations you avoid are the ones that cost you.

Any manager can handle the easy conversations. It's the emotionally or politically risky ones — the underperformer, the overpromising star, the peer who keeps dropping the ball — that separate good leaders from great ones.

"At the heart of most chronic organizational problems lies an important conversation — one that's either not being held, or not being held well."

And the cost of getting them wrong rarely shows up as a line item. It hides inside slow decisions, repeated mistakes, eroded trust, and — most expensively — the senior people who quietly leave over a conversation that never happened.

35%
of managers say they'd rather skydive for the first time than have a difficult conversation with a colleague. Avoidance is the default — and it's expensive.

This isn't communication training.

Leaders shouldn't invest just in "better conversations." They invest in what's on the other side of them — the business outcomes that show up when issues get raised in week one instead of month nine.

Faster accountability

Problems get named while they're still small.

Less unresolved conflict

Smart people disagree without going territorial.

Fewer escalations

Hard customer truths land calmly, relationship intact.

Stronger retention

Key talent stays instead of leaving over what went unsaid.

A deeper bench

Leaders who can say the hard thing become the leaders you promote.

Cleaner decisions

Less drag from the disagreements nobody will voice.

Seven conversations.
One missing skill.

When we asked senior leaders in tech, finance, and healthcare where the hard conversations cluster, the same seven kept coming up — and two of them quietly cost the most when they're ducked.

Costliest when avoided

Cross-functional conflict

Product vs. Engineering, Sales vs. CS — disagreement that curdles into turf instead of truth.

Costliest when avoided

Performance

The brilliant engineer who won't collaborate; the manager who won't hold the line.

Upward feedback

Challenging a VP or telling the boss they're wrong — without torching the relationship.

Behavioral issues

Arrogance, micromanagement, poor listening — from people who genuinely mean well.

Change & reorg

Restructures, role changes, layoffs — holding trust when the message itself disappoints.

Customer escalations

Outages, missed commitments, defects — calm truth that preserves the relationship.

Talent

Promotions, "not yet," comp, retention — the conversations that touch identity and ambition.

What should have been a 15-minute conversation, left unsaid, becomes a six-month organizational problem.

An 8-week intensive — then five months of accountability.

This isn't a webinar you forget by Friday. It's a deliberate-practice engine — and the live "real play," where you rehearse your actual conversation and get feedback, is the part leaders say is worth the price on its own. As Kirstin puts it: "You can't just hear how it's done. You've got to do it."

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Week 1 · The Baseline

A 5-minute Avoidance Index — your read on the three skills (creating safety, listening & learning, and shared accountability), your fight/flight-freeze instinct, and your confidence.

2

Week 2 · The Toolkit · 90 min live

The 11 Golden Keys, the four-phase anatomy of a hard conversation, and a non-verbal playbook. You leave with 5–6 tactics to put to use right away.

3

Week 4 · The Awareness · 75 min live

Your stress-response pattern (fight/flight/freeze/appease) and a trigger map — why you avoid or mishandle the specific conversations you do.

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Week 6 · The Practice · 3 hrs live

You run YOUR real conversation with live feedback from peers and coach — and observe four to seven other leaders run theirs. “Best-practices” sharing here deepens the learning and ups your “reps.”

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Week 7 · The Execution

You have the conversation — for real — plus one or two more. Text support within 24 hours, for when you're sitting in the parking lot beforehand.

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Weeks 8–20 · The Mastery

Post-conversation analysis, your permanent framework, and an alumni community to report wins and trade ideas.

+ 1:1
★ Bonus

Private 1:1 Coaching with Kirstin

50 minutes of one-on-one with Kirstin (or two 25-minute sessions), redeemable any time within five months from your program’s start — to prep or debrief the high-stakes conversation a great deal is riding on.

+ 5 mo

The 5-Month Accountability Loop

Five months out, participants report back: pre/post confidence and avoidance scores, the number of conversations they initiated that they'd previously have ducked, an outcome assessment, and one anonymized success story. In a company cohort, leadership receives the aggregate picture and anonymized stories — never individual responses.

Everything you need to actually do it.

Not a binder of theory — a working toolkit, real practice, and a support system that lasts well past the program.

The 11 Golden Keys. Three skills. One instinct.

Everything in the program rolls up into three core skills — and retraining the one instinct (fight, flight, or freeze) that hijacks hard conversations.

🛡️

Create Safety

Keep the other person's survival brain calm enough to actually solve the problem.

  • Lead with mutual purpose
  • Use contrasting statements
  • Avoid “trigger” language
🔄

Listen & Learn

Turn a battle of positions into a learning conversation where the full truth surfaces.

  • Invite the other story first
  • Reflect facts and feelings
  • Share your view tentatively
🤝

Share Accountability

Replace one-way blame with shared ownership — the move that makes hard feedback land.

  • Own your contribution, not just fault
  • Map the system together
  • Explore their solutions first

Built for high-stakes leadership.

We're starting where the fit is sharpest — tech leadership teams and the executives around them, where a single conversation can move real money, real talent, and real product.

The Leaders

Senior executives and the teams around them
People with budget authority and influence, whose conversations carry weight.

Tech First

High-growth software, platforms & engineering-led orgs
Where brilliant-but-blunt talent, cross-functional friction, and "saying no to the CEO" are everyday stakes. (Financial-services cohorts now forming too.)

The Organizations

Roughly 250–1,000 employees
Big enough for complex problems, often without a deep internal L&D bench.

You funded brilliant founders. Protect the investment.

VC and PE firms back exceptional operators who are often years ahead technically and years behind on the hard conversations — with co-founders, with talent, with their own board. Those unspoken conversations are where deals, teams, and returns quietly unravel. Put your portfolio leaders through this program and de-risk the human side of the bet.

Talk About Your Portfolio

The favorite session of a year-long program — now its own.

This isn't new, untested material. It's the module participants in Kirstin's 11-month leadership immersion consistently rate the most useful — now distilled into a focused, standalone program.

#1
rated module of her 11-month immersion
~60
leaders a year ran it inside her programs

For years, these tactics and role-plays were the highest-rated part of Kirstin's 11-month leadership immersion — the session people said changed how they lead. We've taken the standout module and made it a program of its own.

"Before this program, difficult conversations sat on my to-do list for weeks — sometimes months. Today I approach them with a clear plan and far more confidence, leading to faster decisions, stronger accountability, and less stress for everyone involved."
— Senior Vice President, Technology Company

Kirstin Lynde facilitating a leadership session with a team

A practitioner, not an academic.

Kirstin built a world-class learning & development function at Digitas as it grew from 150 to 2,000 people. She's spent her career helping leaders become the kind of bosses others love to work for — direct and kind at the same time.

"The ultimate differentiator between good leaders and great leaders is the ability to have difficult conversations. Anybody can deliver good news — it doesn't take skill. And you can be both candid and kind in the very same conversation."

Her work has spanned redesigning leadership courses at Harvard Business School, co-authoring the best-selling Harvard note "Developing Yourself as a Leader," running this program for a global staffing company, and delivering it to teams like Southwest Florida's largest Ace Hardware franchise. Her programs consistently earn the strongest feedback of anything Catalyze offers.

Background & Credentials Span
Harvard Bain American Express Digitas Forrester
100%
Money-Back

The behavior-change guarantee.

Complete all elements of the program, hold your real conversation(s), and take part in the follow-up. If you don't believe, after fully participating in the program, that it materially improved your ability to handle difficult conversations, we'll refund your tuition. We only get paid if the program earns it.

Reserve your seat — cohorts forming now.

Most clients find that preventing a single regretted departure — or one badly-handled high-stakes decision — pays for the program many times over.

Enrollment open now Launches when 5–8 seats fill · typical wait 2–6 weeks Tech cohorts available now · financial-services coming soon

Forming now — Tech cohort: 4 of 8 seats filled, launching soon. Financial-services cohorts to follow.

Executive Intensive
$10–15k

One leader, privately, no cohort wait. The full method delivered 1:1 — for the urgent, high-stakes conversation that can't wait.

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Private Company Cohort
$20–32k

A dedicated cohort of 5–8 from one organization at $4,000 per person — custom scheduling, your real scenarios, and a management metrics report.

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Payment plans available. Enroll a full company cohort and we fund a donated seat for a non-profit leader.

Frequently asked questions

Who is The Cost of Avoidance for?

Senior and emerging leaders — VPs, directors, founders, and the executives around them — who need to have high-stakes conversations with team members, peers, partners, or clients and have been putting them off. We run cohorts for technology organizations first, with financial-services cohorts to follow.

How long is the program, and what's the time commitment?

It's an 8-week, practice-based intensive delivered live over Zoom: a baseline Avoidance Index, a 90-minute toolkit session, a 75-minute awareness session, and a 3-hour deep-practice session, followed by your real conversation(s) — plus a 50-minute private 1:1 coaching session (redeemable within five months) and a 5-month follow-up to measure change.

What does it cost?

An open-enrollment seat is $4,995 per person. The 1:1 Executive Intensive runs $10–15k, and a dedicated private company cohort of 5–8 is $20–32k ($4,000 per person). Payment plans are available.

What's the guarantee?

A money-back behavior-change guarantee: complete all elements of the program, hold your real conversation(s), and take part in the follow-up. If you don't believe, after fully participating, that it materially improved your ability to handle difficult conversations, we'll refund your tuition.

When does the next cohort start?

Enrollment is rolling. A cohort launches once 5–8 seats fill — typically a two-to-six-week wait. If your situation is urgent, the 1:1 Executive Intensive can start right away.

Can you run it for an intact team?

Yes. A private company cohort places 5–8 leaders from one organization or team together, with custom scheduling, your real scenarios practiced, and an aggregate management-metrics report that keeps individual responses confidential.

Which difficult conversation have you been putting off?

Now is a great time to have it. Cohorts are forming now — enrollment launches as soon as 5–8 seats fill. Reserve yours, or see where you stand first.

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